But that’s a story for another day.

I was entertained by some of the perks of Gilman’s job, one of which is being up close and personal with movie stars from time to time. There’s the framed selfie taken with her, Gov. Terry Branstad and Kevin Costner from the 25th anniversary of filming “Field of Dreams” near Dyersville.

And her creation of semiregular public interviews at the State Historical Building with folks in the movie business with connections to Iowa.  Interviewing actors Tom Arnold, Brandon Routh, Cloris Leachman and producer Norman Lear, has given her face time with some famous names in the business.

Interestingly, Gilman was much in awe by the longevity and vitality of Leachman, 90, and Lear, 94. Leachman is an Academy Award and Emmy Award winning actress who grew up in Des Moines and returned for a celebration in her honor over the summer. Lear, a television and film producer known for popular sitcoms such as “All in the Family,” “Good Times” and “The Jeffersons,” was in Iowa in 2014 to celebrate the 45th anniversary of filming the movie “Cold Turkey” in Greenfield. Both were energetic and mentally sharp at ages when it’s unusual to be alive, much less kicking the way these two were.